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	<title>Comments on: 她是好人,但她是對的嗎？Vera Drake (2004)</title>
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	<description>All men dream: but not equally.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: little Alex</title>
		<link>http://blog.hongki.net/archives/386#comment-94784</link>
		<dc:creator>little Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit late, so I don't know if it's gonna reach anyone, but here we go.

@L

I think I've explained myself pretty well in my reply. Keep it legal but change the societal conditions so that it'd be unnecessary for anyone to go that extreme step. Better sex education, wider contraceptive use, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit late, so I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s gonna reach anyone, but here we go.</p>
<p>@L</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve explained myself pretty well in my reply. Keep it legal but change the societal conditions so that it&#8217;d be unnecessary for anyone to go that extreme step. Better sex education, wider contraceptive use, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://blog.hongki.net/archives/386#comment-85042</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.hongki.net/archives/386#comment-85042</guid>
		<description>Pro-choice but anti-abortion? Does it mean the woman should "choose" to carry the fetus to term? It seems that it's the only choice left then, isn't it? And if it's the only "choice" left, is it still a choice? Or does "choice" here mean the same as the one in "pro-choice"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pro-choice but anti-abortion? Does it mean the woman should &#8220;choose&#8221; to carry the fetus to term? It seems that it&#8217;s the only choice left then, isn&#8217;t it? And if it&#8217;s the only &#8220;choice&#8221; left, is it still a choice? Or does &#8220;choice&#8221; here mean the same as the one in &#8220;pro-choice&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: shakti</title>
		<link>http://blog.hongki.net/archives/386#comment-84119</link>
		<dc:creator>shakti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religious issues aside, Vera Drake can be read in comparative context with Claude Chabrol's "Une affaire de femmes" (1988). In my opinion the English play is politically too compromising to the extent of being cheesy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious issues aside, Vera Drake can be read in comparative context with Claude Chabrol&#8217;s &#8220;Une affaire de femmes&#8221; (1988). In my opinion the English play is politically too compromising to the extent of being cheesy.</p>
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		<title>By: little Alex</title>
		<link>http://blog.hongki.net/archives/386#comment-84109</link>
		<dc:creator>little Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.hongki.net/archives/386#comment-84109</guid>
		<description>First, I totally agree with Mr. Chong Hoi that there are several issues at play here.

One is if good but simple people can be duped into committing evil acts, and I think the answer is yes. It has always been yes.

But to focus on the issue of abortion:
a) like Mr. Chong Hoi said, when does a fetus becomes a baby? I mean, even in our own traditions, we didn't used to acknowledge the status of a baby until it's one month old, because the infant mortality rate was so high back then;

b) even if I think abortions are immoral, is it our place to say that it has to be kept illegal? I support a society in which abortions wouldn't need to happen, but the process would still be legal. banning it outright would only endanger the lives of the women who want to take this extreme step, but does nothing to help the fetuses.

I guess for me, the issue was actually pretty clear cut, as I've always been pro-choice (but anti-abortion)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I totally agree with Mr. Chong Hoi that there are several issues at play here.</p>
<p>One is if good but simple people can be duped into committing evil acts, and I think the answer is yes. It has always been yes.</p>
<p>But to focus on the issue of abortion:<br />
a) like Mr. Chong Hoi said, when does a fetus becomes a baby? I mean, even in our own traditions, we didn&#8217;t used to acknowledge the status of a baby until it&#8217;s one month old, because the infant mortality rate was so high back then;</p>
<p>b) even if I think abortions are immoral, is it our place to say that it has to be kept illegal? I support a society in which abortions wouldn&#8217;t need to happen, but the process would still be legal. banning it outright would only endanger the lives of the women who want to take this extreme step, but does nothing to help the fetuses.</p>
<p>I guess for me, the issue was actually pretty clear cut, as I&#8217;ve always been pro-choice (but anti-abortion)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 倉海君</title>
		<link>http://blog.hongki.net/archives/386#comment-84094</link>
		<dc:creator>倉海君</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.hongki.net/archives/386#comment-84094</guid>
		<description>你似乎是問兩條問題：

1.好心做壞事，是否該受責備？

如果那人已盡自己所能去估量一切後果並避免犯錯，而最後依然有無可估計的錯誤發生的話，那麼此人就不必為超乎自己能力的後果負責了。重點是「盡自己所能」此一免責條件，其實外人不易判斷。但以你舉的例子來說：Vera Drake雖然認為不妥,但只說了一句：「這不太對吧？」仍然接受了差使－－她明顯沒有盡力分清對錯。畢竟，suspension of judgment不等同於無懈可擊的ignorance。如果好人受罰太令你神傷的話，也只能怪她意志薄弱任人擺佈。因懦弱而受苦，我覺得是天公地道的，在這方面我跟《失樂園》中的Satan不謀而合：To be weak is miserable/ Doing or suffering. 

2.墮胎有沒有錯？

要回答此問題，首先要解決以下問題：

－－胎兒是生命，但算不算人呢？何時才算？
－－有沒有靈魂在胎中？如果有，你拆掉他的屋是否有違「鬼權」？

這些問題很難有答案，問自己良心就是了。如果你真心相信胎不是人，當丟垃圾又何妨？如果你認為人生是苦，禁止他輪迴也未嘗不是功德。但如果連你自己也覺得是殺害無辜，我相信「墮胎有沒有錯」這問題根本就不必問了。以Vera Drake為例，她根本就不思想不判斷，這種人可以極好，也可以極壞，但都是偶然的(因為她根本沒有意志，只有本能)，所以她下世投胎，萬一不是好人，就肯定是《深山大屠殺》的主角。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>你似乎是問兩條問題：</p>
<p>1.好心做壞事，是否該受責備？</p>
<p>如果那人已盡自己所能去估量一切後果並避免犯錯，而最後依然有無可估計的錯誤發生的話，那麼此人就不必為超乎自己能力的後果負責了。重點是「盡自己所能」此一免責條件，其實外人不易判斷。但以你舉的例子來說：Vera Drake雖然認為不妥,但只說了一句：「這不太對吧？」仍然接受了差使－－她明顯沒有盡力分清對錯。畢竟，suspension of judgment不等同於無懈可擊的ignorance。如果好人受罰太令你神傷的話，也只能怪她意志薄弱任人擺佈。因懦弱而受苦，我覺得是天公地道的，在這方面我跟《失樂園》中的Satan不謀而合：To be weak is miserable/ Doing or suffering. </p>
<p>2.墮胎有沒有錯？</p>
<p>要回答此問題，首先要解決以下問題：</p>
<p>－－胎兒是生命，但算不算人呢？何時才算？<br />
－－有沒有靈魂在胎中？如果有，你拆掉他的屋是否有違「鬼權」？</p>
<p>這些問題很難有答案，問自己良心就是了。如果你真心相信胎不是人，當丟垃圾又何妨？如果你認為人生是苦，禁止他輪迴也未嘗不是功德。但如果連你自己也覺得是殺害無辜，我相信「墮胎有沒有錯」這問題根本就不必問了。以Vera Drake為例，她根本就不思想不判斷，這種人可以極好，也可以極壞，但都是偶然的(因為她根本沒有意志，只有本能)，所以她下世投胎，萬一不是好人，就肯定是《深山大屠殺》的主角。</p>
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